Re: The New Blazer - WHY?

"deprecated account" (savethei4s) 06/22/2018 at 11:15 • Filed to: None

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Someone at GM was certainly blazing something when they decided that a new Blazer should compete with the Jeep Cherokee and look THAT. FREAKING. UGLY. doing it, e specially with the Bronco making its return shortly, in what seems to be a form largely true to the original. They beat the new Ranger by a few years with the new Colorado, and as many as of those as I see, I’d say that’s paid off. So why not beat the Bronco to market with a REAL Blazer??? 

Snailkite > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:18

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GM design meeting: “Sure it’s bland. But could we make it blander?”

deprecated account > Snailkite 06/22/2018 at 11:21

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I was about to say I’d  hardly call it bland, but these days I guess overstyled and hideous is the norm, so you have a point.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:22

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With what they’re doing, they might as well have badge engineered the Dacia Duster.

Which is purportedly pretty good.

Hamtractor > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:22

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Real Blazer for reference...

ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:26

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Looks like different groups of folks designed the glass in front of the C-pillar and behind it.

deprecated account > ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy 06/22/2018 at 11:28

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And both groups were not in a right state...

fintail > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:32

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When this SWB minivan with conventional doors is a “Pathfinder”:

And this is an “Eclipse”:

It might just make sense.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:32

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I thought it was this:

jasmits > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:33

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I could sorta get the logic if this was a replacement for the Equinox, made good(for a crossover) and using a stronger name. Or even made it fun and cool and semi-capable like Jeep does with its crossovers. 

As much as I’d like to see more fun BOF SUVs around I can’t really get into if it makes business sense for them, but what I cannot understand is what this adds to their current crop of crossovers, and what sales it’ll get besides cannibalizing what GM already sells.

deprecated account > jasmits 06/22/2018 at 11:36

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Right. Even if BOF SUVs don’t make super business sense, it still seems like cannibalizing sales makes even less sense. And yeah, the only way  a BOF one would make sense is really to upstage the forthcoming Bronco.

deprecated account > fintail 06/22/2018 at 11:36

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:(

deprecated account > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 06/22/2018 at 11:37

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It is. Lede image is foreign market TrailBlazer, aka what we’ve should’ve gotten (or at least something based on that platform)

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:40

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Aye.

atfsgeoff > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:45

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They should have put sliding rear doors on it. At least it’d be more useful if still ugly.

Steve in Manhattan > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:48

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My sister has a ‘17 Grand Cherokee (white) that doesn’t look too bad in person. I’ll give this thing the benefit of the doubt, but it’s not looking good.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:51

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The Traverse got bigger and the Equinox got a good bit smaller when they were redone . This left space for a Murano/Edge/Santa Fe Sport  competitor, which the old Equinox competed against as well as the Escape/Rouge/Tucson because it was a between size. 

jasmits > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 11:54

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True, and I see why they may want to stay away from that. Like yes the 4Runner and Wrangler do sell well but not that well and the majority of the market for a midsize BOF vehicle are probably already either in one of those or a Tacoma or Colorado/Canyon. I don’t think more BOF midsize SUVs will grow the off-road enthusiast market, just give those few hundred thousand customers more options. 

deprecated account > atfsgeoff 06/22/2018 at 11:58

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Ha

deprecated account > Steve in Manhattan 06/22/2018 at 11:59

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Yeah, I’ve seen plenty of Cherokees in person, and they’re alright, but I only see this thing looking worse than in pictures.

gmctavish needs more space > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 12:00

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I was really hoping for an actual SUV, based on the Colorado frame, that you could get with a low range transfer case, cloth seats, and decent ground clearance. basically a modern S10 Blazer. I would’ve genuinely wanted that, and maybe found a way to buy one if it was reasonably priced. I’m not even remotely surprised that it’s the opposite of that, but I am disappointed.

Here’s hoping the Bronco is a different story.   

deprecated account > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/22/2018 at 12:00

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The Traverse got smaller, though, I thought.

dogisbadob > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 06/22/2018 at 12:01

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The OP is writing about the international Trailblazer sold in South America and the Aisa Pacific. It is made in Thailand and Brazil and is based on the Colorado.

dogisbadob > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 12:02

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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup, GM should sell that over here instead of the lame-ass Blazer they just released for our market :(

deprecated account > gmctavish needs more space 06/22/2018 at 12:02

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Well, Ford has actually been doing good stuff recently, so I actually have decently high hopes for the B ronco.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 12:05

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The Acadia did, it’s the same size as the XT5 and now the Blazer but still offers 3 rows of seating . The Traverse and Enclave grew in size.

CobraJoe > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 12:09

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Ya know, except for killing off the small cars (including both STs), and threatening to name an electric crossover “Mach 1". 

deprecated account > CobraJoe 06/22/2018 at 12:10

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Well, yeah other than that, but they’re not making shitty products is all I meant

HammerheadFistpunch > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 12:27

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Im a little surprised as well. For one, is it REALLY a niche that needed to be filled? Why not just put people into an Acadia? That was the whole point of making the Acadia smaller, because the world didn’t need 3 identical 3 row crossovers from the same make.

The other question is - Do people not understand brand equity? Cherokee, pathfinder, blazer...these brands have value but only in as much as their namesakes were loved and revered.

on that note - I don’t really care. I mean they can call it what they want, its their name, their choice. it will probably be a net asset up front and thats what matters to them.

The other point, the one you are making, is that the colorado 7/trailblazer could have been a great addition to the fleet - its different, it fills a specific niche and its in a hot segment of off road SUV’s.  Not to mention it could have been the only diesel 7 seat off roader.  They could have done a ZR2.  All SOOOO easy.  oh well.

deprecated account > HammerheadFistpunch 06/22/2018 at 12:31

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I don’t know how big the engine bay on those colorados is, but I, for one, would not be opposed to a new TBSS, either.

HammerheadFistpunch > deprecated account 06/22/2018 at 12:32

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SBC fits everywhere.  I mean its probably not much physically bigger than the 3.6 high feature.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > dogisbadob 06/22/2018 at 12:39

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Im aware now. Gotta love Murica

deprecated account > HammerheadFistpunch 06/22/2018 at 13:40

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*cough cough* LT-powered ATS-V, Caddy? Please?